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General Category => rFactor 2 General => Topic started by: Ibby on May 12, 2017, 05:10:53 am
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I am setting up a new computer.
It has a 256GB SSD and a 2TB HDD.
What is the general consensus of where to store rF2?
I have seen videos saying to reserve the SSD for Windows and install all documents on HDD. The same video mentioned installing Steam to the HDD rather than the SSD. But I guess you can mess around within Steam so that even if Steam and most games are on HDD, you could still custom set rF2 to be on SSD.
I don't know if I really mind if rF2 takes an extra 1 or 2 seconds to load. And I'm worried that all the packages I keep downloading for rF2 are going to chew up the entire SSD. I also read something about micro stuttering from rF2 being installed on SSD that was cured by installing it on HDD instead.
But on the other hand, I'm worried that if I install rF2 in a "non-standard" location (like the HDD which will be D drive) that some of the mods may be expecting certain "standard" file folders and not work correctly.
Anyone have opinions, experience, recommendations?
Paul
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i tried both, didnt see much difference, but it was an old build i dont know how it will work in dx11.
as far as mods you wont have any issues. mod packages are in the rfactor root folder and it loads everything from there, so as long as everything is in the "rfactor2" folder you wont have ANY issue
if you want to install steam games in other folders just create a new steam folder in other hard drive.
in steam: view>settings>steam library folders>add library or something like that.
my 2 cents :p
cheers
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Def the SSD ;D for speed and packages stored on the HDD is how mine is
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I have no HDD, two SSD drives... they are pretty full :S
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Def the SSD ;D for speed and packages stored on the HDD is how mine is
Would you mind listing how you do that? In steam, I can set a folder for storing games. But I'm not sure how I would set a folder to store the actual game on SSD and then set a different folder to store packages on HDD. That almost sounds like then the packages are not in the "root" rF2 folder.
I haven't actually tried to do this yet, so maybe it will become clear when I start tinkering.
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in launcher in mod manager set packages location at bottom of screen steam dloads wont go there though but all my other dloaded mods are kept there 100gb odd
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Ive seem quite a lot of people testing this, nobody observed any percievable difference, it seems that the main difference in loading is actually CPU, because majority of the loading screen is initiating shaders, compiling physics code and **** like that.
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The only perceivable difference is going to be load times. Simply because an SSD going to be able to read faster. It won't need to waste time searching the disk. Once you're passed the loading screen the disk isn't much of a factor.
Personally I have a system SSD 120GB and a 3TB mechanical. I have steam itself installed on the G:\ (game) drive. That way all Steam games default to that larger drive.
Using separate application like Crew Cheif I had to point the settings to G instead of C but its a simple task. Otherwise plugins just work because they're in the game folder. If the game runs, the plugins run.
You don't want a speedy drive or you're going to miss patches all over the green when you're cutting the lawn!!! Boom.
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Ive seem quite a lot of people testing this, nobody observed any percievable difference, it seems that the main difference in loading is actually CPU, because majority of the loading screen is initiating shaders, compiling physics code and **** like that.
yup, the game builds a cache and renders the whole thing at once.
you see noticeable differences in loading times when games rely heavily on decompressing chunks and texture streaming.
worst culprit could be the battlefield series, and open world games like the witcher 3.
i tested BOTH and there was nothing much to gain that justified losing 50gb on my ssd.
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I would just like to say to Ignacio...
COWABUNGA!!!! RU RU RU RU!!!
Nice Avatar.
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Quick question regarding steam on a SSD and the steamapps on HDD.
I put Steam on the SSD and all the Steam-content (rf2) on the HDD. Until 2 days ago it worked perfect. Now, somehow, Steam wants to install rf2 again, which it does on the SSD. I thought the entire game was on HDD (the entire 'Common' folder is located on the HDD). I couldn't play rf2 without going the entire install process. In the end it worked fine, although all my content was elsewhere (so no cars, skins, tracks...). I figured that by deleting the rf2 game on the SSD and redirecting Steam to the HDD, it would work again. It failed however, so I'm currently re-installing rf2 for a second time.
I don't get why steam suddenly wants to install the game again, unless the recent steam-update messed something up. I could just redirect the content in rf2 (packages) to the HDD, but I would still have rf2 installed in 2 locations.
Is it better to have to game on the SSD and only the packages on the HDD?
If not, how can I get back to the entire game on the HDD?
All this **** messes with my training, which is already limited this week.
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Wow, sorry to hear about your troubles.
All I can tell you is that I opted to save EVERYTHING on the HDD and nothing on the SSD. So steam, all it's games (including rF2) and therefore all the rF2 mods and workshop files all download to the HDD by default.
As others have pointed out, there doesn't seem to be any slowdown penalty for this after the initial loading screen.
However, if you are also into flight sims where scenery is loaded "on the fly" (ha good one Paul), then that could be an argument for putting it on the SSD.
But I think my advice would just be put it all on the HDD.
Paul
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My entire steam install and all games are on my HDD. the only programs on my SSD are the OS and some minor programs that tale little space. I don't understand why steam would have decided it did not like your installation of rfactor 2. Is it possible that you logged in on a separate account or just simply weren't logged in at all?
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I was logged in and I have only one account. So I don't get what happened. I did notice that suddenly I had to folder in the download section (one on the SSD and one on the HDD) and I think it happened with a Steam- update.
I'll try to move Steam to the HDD this evening. According to their site, it's doable.
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i just moved it via steam to new ssd
it does put the workshop folder in there as well with workshop stuff 45gb mine is plus rf2 109gb
so 150gb RF2 has its own ssd now lol
other URD ASR tracks etc packages are on 1TB drive 130GB of them
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Not sure if this will apply in your situation any more but I discovered a program last year when my SSD was getting full.
http://www.traynier.com/software/steammover (http://www.traynier.com/software/steammover)
It works for me, I've used it a few times to move steam games from my SSD to my HDD and back again if I wanted to.
Easy to use and you don't install it, it runs from an .exe
Read through the entire page I have linked to to see additional information.
HTH
Gerry
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That might be helpful.
After lots of sweating and swearing and a third download I managed to get it going again. I removed all Rf2 files on SSD and HDD and reinstalled a third time after reinstalling Steam (and determining the download folder on my HDD (again)). Then I put all the plugins, package-folder, controller file... back in place and it worked.
But now I realised that Steam installs rf2 both on SSD and HDD.
For now I'll leave it as it is, but I'll probably will try moving Steam altogether to the HDD.
Thx for your help.
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After a couple of days Steam started acting up again this evening. I tried moving steam (not with your program, Gerry, since the download folder of Steam was already on a separate location), but no success.
So I removed everything and installed Steam again, entirely on the HDD. Just started downloading rF2 again. I'm really near my monthly downloadlimit, but luckily that will be reset tomorrow. Fingers crossed that it'll be a definitive fix.
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One good thing in living in Finland is we don't have those stupid data limits :P
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If I get a bigger, way more expensive plan, there is no limit, except for FUP. But so far I never got near the limit (150GB at the moment), even with a youtube on the smart TV and lots of livestreaming. In this period I got my new desktop and so far downloaded rf2 5 times. :D
But in general our small country is no good regarding telecom. We only have two major ISP’s, of which one is not really good anymore. With no real competitors, price stay high and limits/speed stay low. I still have analog television because the offer of channels on digital television I really want is no good. For what I want to see, I have to pay lots more than the standard offer. and with so little time left to really watch tv, it’s not worth it.
The same goes for mobile communication (3 providers) over here.
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We don't have data limits either. And that's a good thing, because I generally download least a terabyte of data every month. I dropped cable TV and phone three or four years ago and have been using Hulu Netflix and Amazon Prime to get the bulk of my and my family's television channels.