Virtual Racing Championship
General Category => rFactor 2 General => Topic started by: Tig_green on September 19, 2017, 10:30:07 am
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I have gtx 970 currently which runs rf2 nicely 1080p single screen full/high settings ~120 fps.
Still, a future proof option would be nice to also play more heavier games and possibly VR.
I'm considering gtx 1080 series:
What do you think of these options?:
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 WindForce OC 8G 599€ (euros)
ASUS GEFORCE GTX 1080TI TURBO 11GB 699€ (euros)
Which one is better investment for my money? Other components I have:
- Z170 PRO Gaming
- Intel Skylake i7-6700K
- EVGA 750W SuperNOVA 750 G2, 100% modular, 80 plus
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO GPU cooler
- Fractal Design Define R5 BlackOut ATX case
I would spend 700€ on a GPU only if it's a really good deal considering my whole PC cost me ~1500€
-Matt
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for the extra 100bucks i would go for the 1080ti :)
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Both of those options are much cheaper than other versions of their models which makes me suspicious. I guess the gtx 1080 is just a good deal but not sure about the 1080ti... it needs 2 X 8 pin connection but it seems my PSU seems to have only 2 X 6 pin connections. And is my case big enough for these? I guess 750W is enough for both?
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Both of those options are much cheaper than other versions of their models which makes me suspicious. I guess the gtx 1080 is just a good deal but not sure about the 1080ti... it needs 2 X 8 pin connection but it seems my PSU seems to have only 2 X 6 pin connections. And is my case big enough for these? I guess 750W is enough for both?
sure there are adaptors for the psu 750w be plenty i have 650w and 1070gtx 1tb hdd 3x 250gb ssd
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Both cards say they need 8 pin connector, but my PSU features state:
Key features:
- 750 W power supply, 90 % efficiency
- 80+ Gold certified
- 24-pin ATX connector for motherboard
- 4x PCIe connectors (6+2-pin)
- 9x SATA connectors
- 4x Molex connectors (4-pin)
- Modular cable design
- 140 mm fan
- Over-voltage, under-voltage, over-current, over-power, over-temperature and short-circuit protection
I don't see 8 pin connector there :o Or should I count 6+2= 8 pin connector?
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https://www.kenable.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=6337&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlvDazZGx1gIVybvtCh2y0g84EAQYASABEgJv8fD_BwE
this will work but most new psu kits come with several plug options if modular type :)
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Found info that my case supports max 31cm long GPU so the gtx 1080TI won't fit because it's 44,6cm long. Gtx 1080 (this version) is only 28cm.
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think you will be fine with 1080 then you only use single screen too ?
so will be plenty me thinks :)
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think you will be fine with 1080 then you only use single screen too ?
so will be plenty me thinks :)
Probably still single screen but 4k would be nice and VR.
There are much smaller gtx 1080ti cards that fit into my case but they are over 800€ atm.
So I either pick gtx 1080 or I wait until gtx 1080TI prices drop under 600€.
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Chad and Gerry have good results with allot lower gpu sure single 4k monitor be fine too :)
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I'm in the same boat Matt. I need new motherboard, processor, video card, and RAM. Crap... I need a whole new pc...
AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.20ghz
8 GB RAM
960 GTX
I get good frame rate in DX9, but it stutters unless I run vsync. DX11 same thing, good frame rate, but it stutters worse, plus it stutters in vsync as well.
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Matt,
I have been looking out for the price to come down on a GTX 1080 and 1080Ti
Looking just know on Newegg's web site I found this sale on a EVGA GTX 1080 (I have always been partial to EVGA, I think they are good cards).
Check it out...
https://www.newegg.com/global/fi/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487245&cm_sp=Homepage_BS-_-P15_14-487-245-_-09222017 (https://www.newegg.com/global/fi/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487245&cm_sp=Homepage_BS-_-P15_14-487-245-_-09222017)
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So I ended up buying Asus ROG Strix gtx 1080 8G gpu. Delivery takes some time so I probably still race few races with the old card. I hope the new card does it's job (giving me solid over 144 fps all the time, does handles Star Citizen and handles VR when I'm ready for it).
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So I ended up buying Asus ROG Strix gtx 1080 8G gpu. Delivery takes some time so I probably still race few races with the old card. I hope the new card does it's job (giving me solid over 144 fps all the time, does handle Star Citizen and handles VR when I'm ready for it).
Oh man, I'm Jealous ;D
Grats Matt!
Gerry
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Yeah, I would love to have that card. I am sure it will crush anything you can throw at it.
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So I ended up buying Asus ROG Strix gtx 1080 8G gpu. Delivery takes some time so I probably still race few races with the old card. I hope the new card does it's job (giving me solid over 144 fps all the time, does handles Star Citizen and handles VR when I'm ready for it).
3.0 in Star Citizen may be out by then get your self a joystick too :)
Looks epic watches the game com 3.0 preview ;D
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So I ended up buying Asus ROG Strix gtx 1080 8G gpu. Delivery takes some time so I probably still race few races with the old card. I hope the new card does it's job (giving me solid over 144 fps all the time, does handles Star Citizen and handles VR when I'm ready for it).
3.0 in Star Citizen may be out by then get your self a joystick too :)
Looks epic watches the game com 3.0 preview ;D
We'll see, some are still convinced it 's a scam and will never be released as a full game :p
I already have a joystick, a budget one. When I start to play SC again I need to relearn everything.
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I have been watching SC for a while, I gave them some money back in 2015 I am embarrassed to say.
This article talks about where things are as of Sept. 2017
http://www.alphr.com/games/1005750/star-citizen-release-date-and-news-everything-you-need-to-know (http://www.alphr.com/games/1005750/star-citizen-release-date-and-news-everything-you-need-to-know)
I don't think it will happen in the same form I was sold on back in 2015.
Gerry
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I also have a SC package. It came with my R9 290. I have since traded my Mustang Omega for a 300i. I have downloaded each new build as they have come out (around 30 GB per update). With each new build I find that I have desync issues and can't play. The last build seemed to take care of some of these issues, but I have found that the Microsoft 3D Pro joystick I have is problematic if I keep it connected to my Racing Rig after trying to use it in SC. I also keep losing the controller setup and have to try to figure out the mapping again.
Needless to say I am not confident I will ever see the game play I have been seeing in "Demo" videos. If it is a scam it has been incredibly well done, as people continue to give CIG their money. If the game turns into what they have been touting it should be AMAZING.... but I am dubious.
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if you're happy with single screen, save your money for other equipment upgrade. 4k will make you happy for about a week.
i don't think VR is "there" yet. i tried, and not seeing things off in the distance ruins it for me.
i have triple 1080p with 1080ti, and it's awesome.
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Well, with all the stuttering I was getting at Spa before Chad loaded the version we raced on and also I am not completely happy with my performance with VR in RF2 and PC2 I have ordered a new graphics card. Was gonna wait till next year but I can't stand it anymore.
This is the card I ordered https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487319 (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487319)
I was going to get a GTX1080Ti but I settled on the GTX1080 just to save a couple hundred bucks. I don't think the difference in performance is that great for the amount of additional money the 1080Ti's go for.
If this does not substantially improve the visuals and frame rate in RF2 and PC2 I will be selling my Rift and putting the money towards two new monitors to go with my 21:9 LG wide screen and wait for the next gen of VR to come out before going down that road again.
Gerry
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Welcome to the club Gerry. I'm interested in VR too so let me hear your experiences once you get your new card.
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Well, with all the stuttering I was getting at Spa before Chad loaded the version we raced on and also I am not completely happy with my performance with VR in RF2 and PC2 I have ordered a new graphics card. Was gonna wait till next year but I can't stand it anymore.
This is the card I ordered https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487319 (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487319)
I was going to get a GTX1080Ti but I settled on the GTX1080 just to save a couple hundred bucks. I don't think the difference in performance is that great for the amount of additional money the 1080Ti's go for.
If this does not substantially improve the visuals and frame rate in RF2 and PC2 I will be selling my Rift and putting the money towards two new monitors to go with my 21:9 LG wide screen and wait for the next gen of VR to come out before going down that road again.
Gerry
The Ti version has substantially more CUDA cores (3584 vs 2560). Is it worth $200? In my opinion, yes.
I do GPU computations on large data sets, using "headless" GPUs. They can't build them with too many cores, IMO. More IS better. Especially pushing triple 21:9. So many pixels.
FWIW
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That's not really something we need to hear when we have already made our decision lol :D
Anyway, in the end, costs always play a role. For me it would have cost extra 300€ as I wanted Asus so I wasn't willing to pay that amount for a rather small jump in performance considering I won't be doing triples, probably not 4k either.
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Well, with all the stuttering I was getting at Spa before Chad loaded the version we raced on and also I am not completely happy with my performance with VR in RF2 and PC2 I have ordered a new graphics card. Was gonna wait till next year but I can't stand it anymore.
This is the card I ordered https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487319 (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487319)
I was going to get a GTX1080Ti but I settled on the GTX1080 just to save a couple hundred bucks. I don't think the difference in performance is that great for the amount of additional money the 1080Ti's go for.
If this does not substantially improve the visuals and frame rate in RF2 and PC2 I will be selling my Rift and putting the money towards two new monitors to go with my 21:9 LG wide screen and wait for the next gen of VR to come out before going down that road again.
Gerry
The Ti version has substantially more CUDA cores (3584 vs 2560). Is it worth $200? In my opinion, yes.
I do GPU computations on large data sets, using "headless" GPUs. They can't build them with too many cores, IMO. More IS better. Especially pushing triple 21:9. So many pixels.
FWIW
You are right, but there are a few other things I needed to consider. I only have a Z97 MB and a i5-4690K 3.5 GHz. I think I would bottleneck a 1080Ti. Heck, I'm probably going to bottle neck the 1080 :)
I am hoping to build a new system in the first 1/4 of 2018, maybe there will be the newer Nvidia cards available at that time.
So I just wanted to see if I could improve VR performance on my current system with out spending too much money.
Gerry
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I have not been experiencing the stutters you have Gerry. (well I do in certain situations, See below) I will say that my R9 290 has me putting setting near the low to middle end of the settings in most games I am playing in VR though. VR being still in in its infancy shows in some of the problems I have been having in certain games, like Xing for example. Resolution was terrible at first. Turns out the program had the wrong Super Sampling minimum set and I had to manually set it to get the crisp graphics I was hoping for.
BTW, speaking about super sampling (SS). I can't seem to run many, if any, games using more than 1.0 SS. Once I set the SS to something higher I start to get stutter. I imagine it is possible to crank the SS up with a more powerful card, I've seen guys claiming to have as high as 2.0 SS enabled in their games. But for now I am not in the position of being able to purchase a new card. I likely wont be for the foreseeable future either. I'll simply have to make due with my old card.
Is it possible Gerry that you had your SS up too high and it was causing the stuttering?
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Hey Chad,
The only time I got stuttering was on one of the Spa versions that was on the server last week.
I had stuttering at the grid on a track a few weeks ago but it smoothed out by the 2nd or 3rd corner.
My problem has been how low I need to adjust the display settings to get good frame rates and I had a lot of "shimmering", Fences, track side objects, especially light poles, they were like barbers poles.
Distance ahead and reading brake markers and other track side signs and stuff were hard to read.
And the cars don't look very good
I ran SS at 1.00, I tried 1.1 and 1.2 but didn't really notice a big difference between them so I stuck with 1.0 just to give me some headroom.
It's tough now to go back to a monitor after using VR for this short period of time. So I'm hoping that this 1080 will help... and so far it looks better... I just installed and set it up a short time ago. I tried Spa in single player for about half a lap and it was... quite? a difference? Maybe, hope so, need to run it longer.
Tried to join the server but join is grayed out with "Wrong Version" in red above.
Just came on here to see if there instruction or info on what all the different Blackwoods are about :-)
Haven' tried it in PCars 2 yet. Lot's of testing to do, I think I feel a cold and might have to call in tomorrow ;D
Gerry
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You need to manually update your installation rfactor 2 to version 1109. You do that in the same way that you opt into the Beta.
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Gerry, you will find the track version and download link to the track from our even post.
Btw, I didn't do any manual update but I'm in dx9 still. I had to download and install the track manualky to enter the server for some reason.
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You need to manually update your installation rfactor 2 to version 1109. You do that in the same way that you opt into the Beta.
Ah, ok. didn't realize you had to do it manually, was waiting for Steam to do something last night.
Thanks Chad
Gerry, you will find the track version and download link to the track from our even post.
Btw, I didn't do any manual update but I'm in dx9 still. I had to download and install the track manualky to enter the server for some reason.
OK, thanks Matt. I'll try that if the opt into build 1109 or what ever it is doesn't work.
I did some more testing and tweaking last night. I mostly concentrated on RFactor2 and got that to look pretty good and run in pretty much 85 to 90 FPS consistently.
I only had time to do some initial settings in PCars 2. Still looks a little rough and I'm getting some white flashes that are momentary loss of frame rate and it drops you back to Oculus Home or something for a nano-second... need to study it more.
It can be difficult to track down accurate info when the two forum threads (Studio 397 and PCars 2) for setting up VR is ~35 pages long, lot's of reading :)
Gerry
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Would be weird if something in this world would be easy.