+- +-

UTC

+-LiveRacers

 

+-User

Welcome, Guest.
Please login or register.
 
 
 
Forgot your password?

+-Stats ezBlock

Members
Total Members: 107
Latest: Taelon
New This Month: 1
New This Week: 0
New Today: 0
Stats
Total Posts: 5138
Total Topics: 413
Most Online Today: 2
Most Online Ever: 10
(October 08, 2017, 07:20:56 pm)
Users Online
Members: 1
Guests: 0
Total: 1

Author Topic: Considering new GPU  (Read 167 times)

Offline Simon J

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 673
  • Location: UK
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2017, 05:00:43 pm »
So I ended up buying Asus ROG Strix gtx 1080 8G gpu. Delivery takes some time so I probably still race few races with the old card. I hope the new card does it's job (giving me solid over 144 fps all the time, does handles Star Citizen and handles VR when I'm ready for it).

3.0 in Star Citizen may be out by then get your self a joystick too :)
Looks epic watches the game com 3.0 preview  ;D

Offline Tig_green

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 580
  • Location: Finland
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2017, 05:32:53 pm »
So I ended up buying Asus ROG Strix gtx 1080 8G gpu. Delivery takes some time so I probably still race few races with the old card. I hope the new card does it's job (giving me solid over 144 fps all the time, does handles Star Citizen and handles VR when I'm ready for it).

3.0 in Star Citizen may be out by then get your self a joystick too :)
Looks epic watches the game com 3.0 preview  ;D

We'll see, some are still convinced it 's a scam and will never be released as a full game :p

I already have a joystick, a budget one. When I start to play SC again I need to relearn everything.
In order to win you need to be willing to roll the dice.

Offline Gerry Sweetland

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 171
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2017, 06:27:30 pm »
I have been watching SC for a while, I gave them some money back in 2015 I am embarrassed to say.
This article talks about where things are as of Sept. 2017
http://www.alphr.com/games/1005750/star-citizen-release-date-and-news-everything-you-need-to-know
I don't think it will happen in the same form I was sold on back in 2015.
Gerry

Offline Chad Brown

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 916
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2017, 01:54:25 am »
I also have a SC package. It came with my R9 290. I have since traded my Mustang Omega for a 300i. I have downloaded each new build as they have come out (around 30 GB per update). With each new build I find that I have desync issues and can't play. The last build seemed to take care of some of these issues, but I have found that the Microsoft 3D Pro joystick I have is problematic if I keep it connected to my Racing Rig after trying to use it in SC. I also keep losing the controller setup and have to try to figure out the mapping again.

Needless to say I am not confident I will ever see the game play I have been seeing in "Demo" videos. If it is a scam it has been incredibly well done, as people continue to give CIG their money. If the game turns into what they have been touting it should be AMAZING.... but I am dubious.

Offline Tarheel Dan

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 49
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2017, 03:18:00 pm »
if you're happy with single screen, save your money for other equipment upgrade. 4k will make you happy for about a week.

i don't think VR is "there" yet. i tried, and not seeing things off in the distance ruins it for me.

i have triple 1080p with 1080ti, and it's awesome.

Offline Gerry Sweetland

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 171
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2017, 05:49:50 pm »
Well, with all the stuttering I was getting at Spa before Chad loaded the version we raced on and also I am not completely happy with my performance with VR in RF2 and PC2 I have ordered a new graphics card.  Was gonna wait till next year but I can't stand it anymore.
This is the card I ordered https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487319
I was going to get a GTX1080Ti but I settled on the GTX1080 just to save a couple hundred bucks.  I don't think the difference in performance is that great for the amount of additional money the 1080Ti's go for.
If this does not substantially improve the visuals and frame rate in RF2 and PC2 I will be selling my Rift and putting the money towards two new monitors to go with my 21:9 LG wide screen and wait for the next gen of VR to come out before going down that road again.
Gerry

Offline Tig_green

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 580
  • Location: Finland
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2017, 05:54:13 pm »
Welcome to the club Gerry. I'm interested in VR too so let me hear your experiences once you get your new card.
In order to win you need to be willing to roll the dice.

Offline Tarheel Dan

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 49
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2017, 04:14:16 am »
Well, with all the stuttering I was getting at Spa before Chad loaded the version we raced on and also I am not completely happy with my performance with VR in RF2 and PC2 I have ordered a new graphics card.  Was gonna wait till next year but I can't stand it anymore.
This is the card I ordered https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487319
I was going to get a GTX1080Ti but I settled on the GTX1080 just to save a couple hundred bucks.  I don't think the difference in performance is that great for the amount of additional money the 1080Ti's go for.
If this does not substantially improve the visuals and frame rate in RF2 and PC2 I will be selling my Rift and putting the money towards two new monitors to go with my 21:9 LG wide screen and wait for the next gen of VR to come out before going down that road again.
Gerry

The Ti version has substantially more CUDA cores (3584 vs 2560). Is it worth $200? In my opinion, yes.

I do GPU computations on large data sets, using "headless" GPUs. They can't build them with too many cores, IMO. More IS better. Especially pushing triple 21:9. So many pixels.

FWIW

Offline Tig_green

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 580
  • Location: Finland
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2017, 05:25:56 am »
That's not really something we need to hear when we have already made our decision lol :D

Anyway, in the end, costs always play a role. For me it would have cost extra 300 as I wanted Asus so I wasn't willing to pay that amount for a rather small jump in performance considering I won't be doing triples, probably not 4k either.
In order to win you need to be willing to roll the dice.

Offline Gerry Sweetland

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 171
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2017, 02:50:47 pm »
Well, with all the stuttering I was getting at Spa before Chad loaded the version we raced on and also I am not completely happy with my performance with VR in RF2 and PC2 I have ordered a new graphics card.  Was gonna wait till next year but I can't stand it anymore.
This is the card I ordered https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487319
I was going to get a GTX1080Ti but I settled on the GTX1080 just to save a couple hundred bucks.  I don't think the difference in performance is that great for the amount of additional money the 1080Ti's go for.
If this does not substantially improve the visuals and frame rate in RF2 and PC2 I will be selling my Rift and putting the money towards two new monitors to go with my 21:9 LG wide screen and wait for the next gen of VR to come out before going down that road again.
Gerry

The Ti version has substantially more CUDA cores (3584 vs 2560). Is it worth $200? In my opinion, yes.

I do GPU computations on large data sets, using "headless" GPUs. They can't build them with too many cores, IMO. More IS better. Especially pushing triple 21:9. So many pixels.

FWIW

You are right, but there are a few other things I needed to consider.  I only have a Z97 MB and a i5-4690K 3.5 GHz.  I think I would bottleneck a 1080Ti.  Heck, I'm probably going to bottle neck the 1080  :)
I am hoping to build a new system in the first 1/4 of 2018, maybe there will be the newer Nvidia cards available at that time.
So I just wanted to see if I could improve VR performance on my current system with out spending too much money.
Gerry

Offline Chad Brown

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 916
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2017, 06:01:45 pm »
I have not been experiencing the stutters you have Gerry. (well I do in certain situations, See below) I will say that my R9 290 has me putting setting near the low to middle end of the settings in most games I am playing in VR though. VR being still in in its infancy shows in some of the problems I have been having in certain games, like Xing for example. Resolution was terrible at first. Turns out the program had the wrong Super Sampling minimum set and I had to manually set it to get the crisp graphics I was hoping for.

BTW, speaking about super sampling (SS). I can't seem to run many, if any, games using more than 1.0 SS. Once I set the SS to something higher I start to get stutter. I imagine it is possible to crank the SS up with a more powerful card, I've seen guys claiming to have as high as 2.0 SS enabled in their games. But for now I am not in the position of being able to purchase a new card. I likely wont be for the foreseeable future either. I'll simply have to make due with my old card.

Is it possible Gerry that you had your SS up too high and it was causing the stuttering?

Offline Gerry Sweetland

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 171
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2017, 09:40:40 pm »
Hey Chad,
The only time I got stuttering was on one of the Spa versions that was on the server last week.

I had stuttering at the grid on a track a few weeks ago but it smoothed out by the 2nd or 3rd corner.

My problem has been how low I need to adjust the display settings to get good frame rates and I had a lot of "shimmering",  Fences, track side objects, especially light poles, they were like barbers poles.
Distance ahead and reading brake markers and other track side signs and stuff were hard to read.
And the cars don't look very good

I ran SS at 1.00, I tried 1.1 and 1.2 but didn't really notice a big difference between them so I stuck with 1.0 just to give me some headroom.

It's tough now to go back to a monitor after using VR for this short period of time.  So I'm hoping that this 1080 will help... and so far it looks better... I just installed and set it up a short time ago.  I tried Spa in single player for about half a lap and it was... quite? a difference?  Maybe, hope so, need to run it longer.
Tried to join the server but join is grayed out with "Wrong Version" in red above.
Just came on here to see if there instruction or info on what all the different Blackwoods are about :-)

Haven' tried it in PCars 2 yet.  Lot's of testing to do, I think I feel a cold and might have to call in tomorrow ;D

Gerry

Offline Chad Brown

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 916
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2017, 12:55:37 am »
You need to manually update your installation rfactor 2 to version 1109. You do that in the same way that you opt into the Beta.

Offline Tig_green

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 580
  • Location: Finland
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2017, 05:49:56 am »
Gerry, you will find the track version and download link to the track from our even post.

Btw, I didn't do any manual update but I'm in dx9 still. I had to download and install the track manualky to enter the server for some reason.
In order to win you need to be willing to roll the dice.

Offline Gerry Sweetland

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 171
    • View Profile
Re: Considering new GPU
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2017, 12:09:25 pm »
You need to manually update your installation rfactor 2 to version 1109. You do that in the same way that you opt into the Beta.

Ah, ok.  didn't realize you had to do it manually, was waiting for Steam to do something last night.
Thanks Chad



Gerry, you will find the track version and download link to the track from our even post.

Btw, I didn't do any manual update but I'm in dx9 still. I had to download and install the track manualky to enter the server for some reason.

OK, thanks Matt.  I'll try that if the opt into build 1109 or what ever it is doesn't work.


I did some more testing and tweaking last night.  I mostly concentrated on RFactor2 and got that to look pretty good and run in pretty much 85 to 90 FPS consistently.
I only had time to do some initial settings in PCars 2.  Still looks a little rough and I'm getting some white flashes that are momentary loss of frame rate and it drops you back to Oculus Home or something for a nano-second... need to study it more.

It can be difficult to track down accurate info when the two forum threads (Studio 397 and PCars 2) for setting up VR is ~35 pages long, lot's of reading  :)
Gerry

 

+- Shoutbox

November 19, 2017, 07:20:31 pm Chad Brown says: VRC EGT Fall Series AMP results: http://simresults.net/171119-St1

November 12, 2017, 07:07:30 pm Tig_green says: EGT Fall series, Dijon results:

http://simresults.net/171112-gb2

November 10, 2017, 08:57:02 am Tig_green says: EGT Fall series, Barber results:

http://simresults.net/171105-BR6

November 10, 2017, 08:56:47 am Tig_green says: EGT Fall series, Poznan results:

http://simresults.net/171029-z1k

October 22, 2017, 06:52:06 pm Tig_green says: EGT Fall series, Blackwood results:

http://simresults.net/171022-vT3

October 15, 2017, 06:54:32 pm Tig_green says: EGT Fall series, Spa results:

http://simresults.net/171015-Xl5

October 08, 2017, 06:56:07 pm Tig_green says: EGT Fall series, Sao Paulo results:

http://simresults.net/171008-l1X

October 01, 2017, 06:58:21 pm Tig_green says: EGT Fall series, Silverstone results:

http://simresults.net/171001-zt3

September 24, 2017, 06:56:01 pm Tig_green says: EGT Fall series, Monza Results:

http://simresults.net/170924-k6n

September 17, 2017, 06:49:05 pm Tig_green says: EGT Fall series, Toban Results:

http://simresults.net/170917-hT4

View Shout History

+-Recent Topics

Skinning competition by Marketcrash16
November 20, 2017, 03:56:26 pm

First Impression Oculus Rift by Chad Brown
November 19, 2017, 11:05:28 pm

Virgina International Raceway 𝐯𝟏.𝟔𝟎 by Simon J
November 19, 2017, 07:38:19 am

zolder-2016-dx11-update-rfactor2 by Simon J
November 17, 2017, 02:06:05 pm

Road Atlanta 2017 1.0 by Simon J
November 16, 2017, 10:24:22 am

VRC Project Cars Server by Simon J
November 13, 2017, 06:42:08 pm

This could be the most fun I have had with AIs by Tech G
November 12, 2017, 07:01:18 pm

URD Skin by Simon J
November 12, 2017, 07:16:34 am

Discord by Simon J
November 09, 2017, 08:27:58 pm

V1.05 of Castle Combe is out by Simon J
November 06, 2017, 12:59:55 pm