Just a quick note to say I hope your all having a great holiday season and all the best for 2018  .

I am thinking of doing some races in these, but had never tried them before today and well I just  had to share this in case its one of the best kept secrets of rF2, as this car is just sooooooo much fun.  Just a short 10 minute race in the end, as a full course yellow cut my joy short.

BTCC - BMW 125i - Barber GP Alabama - default set up besides cambers and tire pressures, AIs at 112%

If you haven't tried these cars and you like the new GT3s, well I think you will also really like these, the FFB  and physics seem good, the cars are very stable and seem to do what you would expect, your welcome  .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHDu-PyMnvg&feature

I have been meaning to put up a screen shot for those missing their screen overlays once you move from Dx9 to 11.  This is the best one I have found so far in terms of resource usage it has a very low foot print and seems very flexible, although I am still learning how to use it.  Free to try with ads, but there is also an ad free paid version.  It has a live lap delta, track map,  relative position, plus lots more and you can modify every thing.

 

A nice post that was linked in the S397 forum explaining GT3 cars, including the fixed gears.

http://shakedownracing.com.au/index.php/forum/tech-talk/161-tech-talk-gt3-homologation-explained

I would also like to firmly put my vote behind the S397 GT3 pack for the following reasons:

• The setup changes actually do what the label says and have much more expected/predictable results
• There are much more limited setup options, so this process is simplified
• The cars handle great and give great FFB
• The tire model seems much improved
• We have five cars to choose from, which is exactly the number of cars we currently use in the EGT mod

However, the main reason is the promotion of better closer racing.  One of the things we have all enjoyed this season is the odd moments where we get the chance to race wheel to wheel with someone for a few laps.  These moments are still often fleeting and whilst the fast guys will always be fast, I think this mod may lead to closer racing up and down the field and isn't that why we race in a league  .

Well personally I would love to change, but understand why some would want to stick with this mod, it does feel and look good, but the setup issues are a big down side for me. 

Both Apex and the S397 mods continue to improve (new update for Apex today) while the URD mod has no information on any future updates.  I will race whatever this league decided to race, but I really do hope the decision is made on what we believe the best mod to be and currently I would now put the URD mod in 3rd place  .

Thanks as always for the help guys and Scott special thanks for the setup, race saver.

In the braking zone for the first corner at Blackwood my car is pulling hard left for no obvious reason.  I have tried different setup up, different lines, brake bias, brake pressures, easing off more, braking earlier and it still pulls left only at this corner  .  This does not seem like normal physics to me, I am braking in a straight line with zero steering input when the back end starts to go. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_qxzMiotDM&feature

Looks like I am in trouble with Matt again  .

I think we have all being saying how great the season has been so far and I wasn't complaining about the standard of racing or suggesting we don't finish the current season. Maybe I am reading your response wrong, but to be clear I am complaining about the EGT changes in setup not making sense IMHO and so taking to long, as it ends up being a lot of trial and error.

I do know quite a bit about what everything is supposed to do, and with the EGT mod it just doesn't.  Whilst there are more limited setup options on the new GT3 cars they still need to make sense, and so far I am happy to report that changes I have made have expected results, so now I have a benchmark it makes the lack of sense with the EGT setup changes more glaringly obvious  . 

So for the avoidance of any doubt, we love you guys, the drivers here are excellent, and we are all looking forward to the rest of the season. Besides, Team Xtreme now has a new rivalry with those Overdrive guys  .